bob marley, overdrive??

[karel]

Hello,

Everytime I read the index in the back of the book I get more confused. My latest confusion is about Bob Marley. Listening to Legend I thought'this is definitely Curbing but the book says he is someone who used Overdrive a lot. It doesn't say anything about Curbing related to Bob Marley.
There's lots of more examples but for now I leave it with this one.
Can someone help me out on this, i.e. tell me why it is mostly O he uses instead of C. Because to me it sounds so light and 'inward' I thought it should be C. especially 'cause it seems to be rather high pitched and to reach those notes on O. I really have to 'shout it out'.

[Henrik Kjelin]

Hi Karel

Hmmm.. you might be right on that. I also recall Bob Marley as part time curber. We will look into that, and update the book if necessary. Thanks for your observation!

Do you have a specific piece with Bob Marley in mind? Post a link, and I will try to find time to analyze it.

And remember that no one only sings in one vocal mode. The singers mentioned as using certain mode, are mainly chosen because they do it a lot and/or in a clear way.

Best wishes Henrik

[Mange]

I think Bob Marley do sing a lot in overdrive although I think he uses curbing to some extent too. Overdrive sounds to me more "open" than curbing, and I think Bob's voice sounds mostly very open, not "curbed". To me it sounds like his overdrive is with a pretty light soundcolour and not very much volume (around 7, not 10).

Don't forget the human differences. Everyone can and sing high and low notes and tweak the soundcolour with some practicing, but everyone have also an own voice that makes you sound unique. Here where the old classifications bass, baritone, tenor, alt, soprano etc comes in. A tenor can hit high note more easily than a bass because of the voice character, and a bass can make a low note more powerful than a tenor.

I think it sounds like Bob Marley is a tenor and is therefore able to sing as high as he does and with obviously not so much effort. I've tried to sing some Bob Marley songs too and they're pretty high to me. It doesn't sound as "easy" when I sing them as when he does it. I guess I'm more of a baritone than tenor...


EDIT: I went to Youtube to listen to some of his songs. I think he uses pretty equal shares O and C.

[_Kevin_]

Well a bit of topic but in my book it states that Whitney Houston uses Belting in the high part of her voice while it's nearly always Curbing. Maybe you could look into that as well.

[Henrik Kjelin]

Thanks Kevin!

Whitney's Belting/Curbing is already on our list of check points, but thanks anyway. It's great with help to improve the book

Best wishes Henrik

[karel]

[quote="Henrik Kjelin"]Hi Karel

Hmmm.. you might be right on that. I also recall Bob Marley as part time curber.

Thanks for your answer Henrik.
Let's take No woman no cry for example. To me it sounds so 'moanful' (is that English) it gets a sort of R&B quality whereas O. would sound more bold.

To see if I'm right I just put a very short example of how Curbing would sound then followed by the same line in Overdrive.
It should be on youtube if you look for knaakvaak

But then again, I just checked a live version of Bob and he seems to sing pretty loud, but still with this R&B sound.
That might have something to do with his natural lighter soundcolour?... Maybe when he does O it still sounds quite polite whereas when I do O it sounds like I am at a football match

[mungfjeld]

Hi Karel
I didn´t find the clip you mentioned, only four songs "have a little faith", "Autumn leaves", "your song", & "De stad"

[karel]

Hi Karel
I didn´t find the clip you mentioned, only four songs "have a little faith", "Autumn leaves", "your song", & "De stad"

Hi Mungjeld,

You are right, for some reason it didn't show up on youtube. I put the same example on pufile.com now. This is the exact link:

http://media.putfile.com/No-woman-no-cr ... gOverdrive

[MoM]

Hey folks,

Greetings from a Marley connaisseur (been singing quite a lot of reggae).

In my view it's simple: in studio recordings Bob used both Curbing and Overdrive, part time and full time

'Live' he was much more into Overdrive (logical, according to the laws of live conditions: gear up in vocal mode!)

So nothing wrongly mentioned in my view, Henrik...

Cheers from the snowy mountains,
Mo

[Henrik Kjelin]

Hi all

In coming books we have added Bob Marley to the list of singers who uses Curbing, as he uses Curbing a lot when singing lyrics in the high part of the voice. He will also be in the list of singers who uses Overdrive, as he uses Overdrive very clearly when he sings "O yo yo yo" etc.

We have also removed Whitney Huston from the list of singers who uses Belting, as she mainly uses Curbing in the high part today.

Thanks very much for valuable inputs Henrik

[Mikael Nordin]

Most singers are in more than one of the functions, aren't they?
When I got the book I was sweeping through these sections to recall the sounds of various singer, but the sound is very much a matter of colour and effects, right?

On my wishlist I would add a section in the book where you describe ways of achieving stereotype sounds (classical, monastic chant, soft RnB, boyband, rock, hardrock, death metal etc etc).
I think CVT has one of its strenghts in being contemporary-oriented.

[Resonator]

Most singers are in more than one of the functions, aren't they?
When I got the book I was sweeping through these sections to recall the sounds of various singer, but the sound is very much a matter of colour and effects, right?

On my wishlist I would add a section in the book where you describe ways of achieving stereotype sounds (classical, monastic chant, soft RnB, boyband, rock, hardrock, death metal etc etc).
I think CVT has one of its strenghts in being contemporary-oriented.

This is a great idea, sort of templates for achieving specific sounds, i.e. what mode, color, effect etc is used.

[YaOoh]

Regarding Whitney Houston, can you please give examples where she uses curbing? To me it sounds like she's singing in overdrive when she is singing loudly and neutral when quietly. Bridge of I'm Every Woman sounds like belting and some earlier stuff too.

Another question: Aretha Franklin is listed as a singer who sings in overdrive a lot. To me her voice sounds more belting or curbing. She constantly goes higher than D2 or E2 and to me the mode sounds similar both below D2 and above D2. Like for example Cyndi Lauper to me is a perfect example of somebody who sings in Overdrive to certain point and always uses Belting above that and I hear a distinct difference in her sound something that I don't hear in Arethas voice.